Green Berets vs. Navy SEALs

Green Berets
Navy SEALs

Navy SEALs and Army Special Forces (Green Berets) are elite U.S. armed forces units. There is some overlap in the kinds of missions they carry out but there are important differences between the two.

The Green Berets are the special forces unit of the U.S. Army while SEALs are a unit of the Navy. "SEAL" is derived from their capacity to operate at SEa, in the Air, and on Land – but it's their ability to work underwater that separates SEALs from most other military units in the world.

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Green Berets

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Introduction (from Wikipedia) The United States Army Special Forces, also known as the Green Berets because of their distinctive service headgear, are a special operations force tasked with six primary missions: unconventional warfare, foreign internal defense, special recon The United States Navy SEa, Air and Land (SEAL) Teams, commonly known as Navy SEALs, are the U.S. Navy's principal special operations force and a part of the Naval Special Warfare Command (NSWC).
Type Army Special Operations Forces Navy Special Operations Force, Sea, Air, Land
Size ~5,500 Active Duty, ~1,100 National Guard ~2,400
Branch United States Army United States Navy
Part of United States Army, United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM), United States Army Special Operations Command (USASOC) United States Navy, United States Naval Special Warfare Command (NAVSOC), United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM)
Role Primary tasks: Unconventional warfare, Special reconnaissance, Direct action, Counter-terrorism, Foreign internal defense, Hostage rescue Other roles: Counter-drug operations, Counterproliferation Information operations, Humanitarian missions Primary tasks: Unconventional warfare, Special reconnaissance, Direct action, Counter-terrorism. Other roles: Counter-drug operations, Personnel recovery, Maritime Special Operations.
Insignia Arrowhead with saber & three lightning bolts Eagle, anchor, trident & cocked flintlock pistol
Years Active 1st Special Service Force "Devil's Brigade"-1942; Special Forces Groups - June 19, 1952 - present Underwater Demolition teams ( UDT) - 1942; SEAL Teams - January 1, 1962 - present
Nickname Green Berets, Quiet Professionals, Soldier-Diplomats, Snake Eaters Frogmen, The Teams, Greenfaces
Garrison/HQ Ft. Bragg, NC; Eglin AFB, FL; Tacoma, WA; Ft. Carson, CO Coronado, California, Little Creek, Virginia
Motto De oppresso liber, (U.S. Army's translation: "To Liberate the Oppressed") "The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday", "It Pays to be a Winner"
Women allowed No No
Country United States of America United States of America
Training and Selection Special Forces Qualification Course Phase I (Special Forces Assessment and Selection). Phase II (Group Training, Specialty and Language Assignment). Phase III (Small Unit Tactics & SERE). Phase IV (Specialty Training, ROBIN SAGE and Graduation). BUD/S Indoctrination. Phase I (Basic Conditioning). Phase II (SCUBA Phase). Phase III (Land Warfare). Army Airborne School. SEAL Qualification Training. SEAL Troop Training.
Combat diving Maintains a robust combat diving capability. One Operational Detachment-Alpha (ODA) per Special Forces Company is trained and equipped to conduct open and closed circuit sub-surface maritime infiltration operations. Primarily trained as Combat Swimmers/Divers
Engagements World War II, Vietnam War, Multinational Force in Lebanon, Operation Urgent Fury, Achille Lauro hijacking, Operation Just Cause, Operation Desert Storm, Operation Restore Hope, Battle of Mogadishu, Operation United Shield, Operation Enduring Freedom World War II, Vietnam War, Multinational Force in Lebanon, Operation Urgent Fury, Achille Lauro hijacking, Operation Just Cause, Operation Desert Storm, Operation Restore Hope, Battle of Mogadishu, Operation United Shield, Operation Enduring Freedom

Contents: Green Berets vs Navy SEALs

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Green Berets stand silent watch during the wreath-laying ceremony at the grave of President John F. Kennedy.
Green Berets stand silent watch during the wreath-laying ceremony at the grave of President John F. Kennedy.

The United States Army Special Forces (SF), also known as the Green Berets because of their distinctive service headgear, are a special operations force tasked with six primary missions: unconventional warfare, foreign internal defense, special reconnaissance, direct action, hostage rescue, and counter-terrorism. The first two emphasize language, cultural, and training skills in working with foreign troops. Their official motto is De oppresso liber (To Liberate the Oppressed), a reference to one of their primary missions, training and advising foreign indigenous forces.

While both Navy SEALs and Green Berets are trained to perform special reconnaissance, fight terrorism, unconventional warfare and combat search and rescue (CSAR); functions like coalition support, humanitarian assistance, peacekeeping and counter Drug operations are usually handled by the Green Berets.

edit Selection Process

The selection process for both programs is extremely rigorous. Very few who start the process are able to complete the training and actually become Navy SEALs or Green Berets. Green Berets are usually highly educated; most have a post graduate degree. During Navy SEAL training, a candidate undergoes: During the training the candidate undergoes the following[1]:

edit History and Notable Missions

The United States Army Special Forces were formed in 1952, initially under the U.S. Army Psychological Warfare Division headed by then Brigadier General Robert A. McClure. Since their establishment in 1952, Special Forces soldiers have operated in Vietnam, El Salvador, Panama, Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Philippines, and, in an FID role, Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa.

Notable Navy SEAL operations in recent memory include the death of Osama bin Laden in May 2011 and the rescue of the freighter ship Maersk Alabama in April 2009.

edit Mode of Operation

A Special Forces Group is historically assigned to a Unified Combatant Command or a theater of operations. The Special Forces Operational Detachment C or C-detachment (SFODC) is responsible for a theater or a major subcomponent, which can provide command and control of up to 18 SFODAs, three SFODB, or a mixture of the two. Subordinate to it are the Special Forces Operational Detachment Bs or B-detachments (SFODB), which can provide command and control for six SFODAs. Further subordinate, the SFODAs typically raise company- to battalion-sized units when on UW missions. They can form 6-man "split A" detachments that are often used for Surveillance & Reconnaissance (SR).

edit Navy SEAL cadence

This is an audio clip of Navy SEAL cadence that pokes fun at other services and expresses pride in being a Navy SEAL and living a life of danger.

edit Insignia

1st Special Forces Regiment insignia.
1st Special Forces Regiment insignia.

On the Green Beret insignia, there are two silver arrows crossed with a silver dagger above them, surrounded by a black ribbon. It bears the motto de oppresso liber (to liberate the oppressed). The crest is the crossed arrow collar insignia of the First Special Service Force (a joint World War II American-Canadian commando unit organized in 1942).

Navy SEALs Insignia (the "Budweiser")
Navy SEALs Insignia (the "Budweiser")

The Navy SEALs insignia is officially called Special Warfare insignia, and is also known as the “SEAL Trident”, or "The Budweiser". It was created in the 1960s. It recognizes those service members who have completed the Navy's Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training, completed SEAL Qualification Training and have been designated as U.S. Navy SEALs. The Special Warfare insignia was initially issued in two grades, being a gold badge for officers and silver for enlisted. In the 1970s, the Silver SEAL badge was abolished and the Special Warfare Badge was issued thereafter in a single grade.

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Anonymous comments (13)

September 26, 2013, 2:10pm

They are both elite units, yet different by nature of services. Both have historical lineages that are traced back to WWII during the time of the OSS. Seals initial training is geared towards BUDS and the artifice of land and water warfare. SF is initially trained in small unit tactics, specific MOS's and cultural awareness ( learning a 2nd + language). Once both highly skilled operators reach each unit, specialty skills can be achieved, ie free fall. both operate within combat applications. both operate in piece time missions and train foreign units. SF is the only unit however, that conducts true unconventional warfare. This discipline is actually their bread and butter. When peacetime exists, SF focuses on UW. Both operators are elite. Both units are tough and train to win. training techniques vary by service, but both train towards excellence. they even attend joint schools. As is prevalent in any military unit, you will find operators that excel or don't. Each operator is a brave man who returns home to his family at night. They are both vulnerable to ied's, suicide vest, and ambushes. The choice to be in a unit where they know that they will be in danger's way speaks volumes about their character.

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August 23, 2013, 8:48pm

I think they are both elite groups of soldiers that I respect and admire equally. From my perspective, not having trained with or gone through the rigors of becoming an Army SF soldier or a SEAL I can't say which one is better. I think arguments like this devalue both. The SEALs are trained differently from the Green berets, the Green Berets go about their business in a similar way but also in different ways. They are both elite and both needed. The physical rigors of the Seals can be matched with the mental rigors of the Green Berets. Category does not define the warrior himself.

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August 8, 2013, 9:29am

Different forces for different missions, there is no "best" , it just depends what the US needs done. Most of the anonymous comments explain this the best.

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June 28, 2013, 2:09am

Most people don't realize navy seals are good. But sf gets dropped into a country starts a civil war with the us interests in mind and trains the side needed to win to well win. Sf is where special ops is heading towards which also explains the suden upsizing of sf soldiers lately. 100 seals can't take over a country. 100 sf can.

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June 25, 2013, 2:05am

You are all idiots. Everyone is picking a side based on preference from a damn movie or a friend. Practically, SF is limitless in their uses, incredibly versatile. SEALS are actually quite unneeded. The navy just wants a commando unit. An SF soldier who has gone to SF combat diver course is a SEAL that speaks multiple languages, can carry more than 40 pounds in their freaking ruck, and can be in the field for more than a few hours. Anyone can gut it out through BUDS. if u don't quit ur pretty much in. In SFAS and SFQC u fail for anything and everything. Only the best and brightest survive on top of being physically superhuman. If SEALS weren't so glorified in popular culture people would see this.

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October 31, 2012, 3:06am

I often explain to folks that our missions are quite different. Consider this, the average mission for Delta or a Seal might be counted in hours. A mission for SF might be counted in months. Thats why we rarely look like Rambo, but rather thinner and smarter. Battles can be won by brawn alone, but wars are won by intelligence. Freedom is rarely given, but rather taken by those who wish to be free with the help of friends.
De Oppresso Liber

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February 19, 2014, 3:53am

I'm a special forces vietnam

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June 20, 2013, 5:12am

The SEALS are better conditioned. Theyre younger, cuter and their dive masks don't work as well with beards and mustaches. However members of the GBs are better informed, better organizers, and better able to make STRATEGIC decisions, not merely tactical decisions. I am neither, but I am acquainted with both, and each team has their strengths, tho the weaknesses are few and far between. If the world ends tomorrow I will take a Robin Sage G over an aggressive 22 yr old with a snorkel. Neither is better or worse, just different tools for different missions. If the Zombies come, in that case I'll take the SEAL.

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May 1, 2013, 4:24am

One thing is that sfas and a seal does is sfas will inbed in a country build a rebellion against the oposition with. The local populus weather it takes a month or.years undetected at the same time conducting other misions a seal is a short and fast tacticle sometimes all branches. With a selection will work together.

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March 24, 2014, 5:19am

A navy seal is bad ass but an army green beret is about three times that just look back at all they have done

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February 26, 2014, 7:04pm

Navy SEALs are "the best of the best" and they always will be. Green berets are good but NOT the BEST! "The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday"!

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August 7, 2013, 3:21am

The GBs are afriad of the SEALs the SEALs are the most bad ass part of the military they train as a team and don't ever give up SEALs are also the only piece of the millitary that has never been POW ever they win or die trying that's all they do is train and train it's my dream to be a part of them and I have mad respect for those SEALs that have lived through training

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October 18, 2012, 7:40pm

As a former member of U.S Army Special Forces I can tell you that SEAL's are better conditioned; the focus in the Army Special Operations training is improving intelligence which allows us to assimilate into different cultural settings for long periods of time

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